Thanks to whoever passed the message on!
The website demo’ed at Tuesdays Board Meeting, Gareth tells me is at:
Thanks to whoever passed the message on!
The website demo’ed at Tuesdays Board Meeting, Gareth tells me is at:
So the AGM & Board Meetings have happened & Mike Fear (who has always been helped by Chris) & Phyllis & I have stepped own from our Honorary posts of Permit Secretary, Gazette Editor & Assistant Secretary respectively. Both teams of us were delighted to be presented with a Flower Display & we also had a Voucher for afternoon tea at the Royal Crescent Hotel in Bath – a very swanky place I think. Mike & Chris’s envelope looked the same so I think they too will have a lovely afternoon out.
I have to say it was a complete & delightful surprise. Thank you “WessexACU” !
A couple of things emerged during the Board Meeting that you may need to know.
There will be a transitional period while Mike & Andy Scrivens, the new Permit Secretary, complete the handover. So up to & until 1st March permit Applications should continue to go to Mike & after that they should all go to Andy Scrivens: email him at firstname.lastname@example.org
The Centre website has been given a new look & a quick demo given & it’s ready to go. I anticipated that the website would have changed by now, but as it isn’t I’ve no idea how you can see it! When Gareth lets me know I’ll tell you!!
Bye for now: Frank
Here are a few things to update you with:
The Terry Bunn Centre Champs Time Trial results are here, NSMSC Terry Bunn Centre Champs T:Trial results 040218 & Jerry Walters reports:
‘Evening Frank, one last posting before you retire!
Results of yesterday’s North Somerset Club Terry Bunn Trophy Time Trial attached for the website. This was the opening round of the 2018 Wessex Centre Time Trial championship and attracted a near capacity entry to Scars Wood, Lulsgate.
The course was in prime condition following saturday’s rain and Andy Frost carried on where he left off, easily winning the Trials class and taking the overall premier on just 9 marks. Pete King was a comfortable second in the Trials class on 25, with Paul Manning third on 34.
Jason Hamblin is one of many Time Trial riders who have recently switched to KTM Freerides, and he put his cards on the table by ‘cleaning up’ in the Non Trials class and taking the overall runner up spot on 23 marks. Tom Smith grabbed second in the class on 39 with Andy Scrivens third on 63.
Regs and entry form also attached for North Somerset Club’s next Time Trial – the Wynnes Trophy at Malthouse Farm, Chelwood on 25th February.
Thanks for publicising all our events on the website in recent years and enjoy your time off!
The Regs for the Wynnes Trophy Time Trial Jerry mentions are here: NSMSC Wynnes Trophy T:trial Regs & Entry Form for 28:02:18
I hadn’t posted the latest Centre Trials Championship Points Table, that Pete Dury had collated previously, as with only one Round so far I reckoned that you would all have good idea of who was where? So here you then: 2018 Wessex Centre Trials Champ Tables as at 050218
Don’t forget the Centre AGM will be held at 20:00hrs at Warmley Community Centre tomorrow, the 6th February. Why not be there & quiz the Board? Tell us what we’ve got wrong (or right) for you during the year. Your ideas are important.
That’s it for the moment: Frank
Indeed, the finish line approaches, I should get there Tuesday next week, when I step down & hand on the stewardship of your web-site at the Centre AGM. Thank you all for your support & interest over the years.
I’ve a couple of things that have been brought to my attention recently that I’d like to comment on – almost the last of my “mutterings”
I gather that on that well known “social media” site F**e***k there has been discussion of Entry Fees for Trials. I gather this has particularly related to our friends over in the SW Centre. So what’s it all about? Riders apparently are perplexed that entering a trial before a Closing date specified in the Supplementary Regs. may cost less than entering up to 30 minutes before the Start of the Event. The beef is, it seems, that there should be no differential & that the lower fee available to entrants by the stated closing date should be available to riders who choose to turn up on the day & ride.
Let me give everyone my take on this. Organisers have to issue Supplementary Regulations (over & above the TSR’s) when applying for their Permit to run the event. Many organisers would prefer to have an idea of the number & ability of the entrants before the day. – If no Experts enter you don’t have to plot a course (the white route) to challenge them do you? Remember no organiser sets out a course on the Sunday morning of the Event, all the Sections will be marked out on the previous day, ie the Saturday at the latest. Sometimes usually due to the weather last minute “tweaks” are necessary. So entering beforehand helps organisers & riders alike. So although you may regard the late entry fee as a penalty fee, it actually shows Organisers are realistic people who want to enable riders to come & have a days sport & are flexible enough to let you have a ride if suddenly on Sunday morning a rider realises he/she is able to get to an event & ride. The Closing date for Entries is there to give you the choice of the Entry Fee you have to pay to ride. It certainly isn’t an effort by the Organisers to penalise you for being unable to enter by the closing date for entries as, in my experience any rider who has entered an event by the closing date, & who has a bona fide reason for not riding the event, will have their Entry Fee refunded or their cheque torn up if you let the Secretary of the Meeting know you will be a non starter before the start – because, for instance you’ve been called in to work unexpectedly, you haven’t been able to source & fit the replacement gearbox mainshaft that broke last weekend you’ve had a fall & broken your wrist on Friday morning – you get the drift? So from where I sit, the late Entry dispensation is a bonus for Riders & not a penalty, as you had the choice of when to enter – before or after the closing date.
It may be true that Organisers aren’t getting this message (refunding Entry Fee) through, I don’t know. I do know that my Club always specifies a Closing date for Entries and that entering on the day will involve an additional fee when sending event details to TMX for the Regs Available section.
The second thing really relates to the varying abilities of riders. In the “good old days” we all rode the same route – there were no different routes through the observed Sections. That’s changed, most events have multiple routes & different ability groups ride routes considered appropriate to their skill level by the CofC. Schoolboys/girls are graded by age groupings – again & this isn’t so long ago there were often entries of 100+ at a schoolboy only event, presently there may only be 3, or if the Club is really lucky 6, youth riders at an event. There is normally a class for Youth Experts which is an ability, not age, group ie youth experts may come from any age groups. Other Youths will ride in their age groupings & the Route the age group will ride is chosen by the CofC & will be specified on the Entry Form. Recognising that some riders in an age grouping can have very divergent abilities, riders may want to ride or their parents/guardians may want them to ride a less challenging route ie “they ride down”. They are thus ineligible for their age group award. A similar thing can happen where a youth rider chooses to “ride up” ie he/she chooses to ride a more difficult route than that which the Organisers have considered appropriate for that age group & is specified on the Entry Form. If the rider that “rides up” loses fewer marks that the best performer riding the specified route, it’s quite clear that the boy or girl riding up has made the best performance in the age group. It’s quite possible though that the rider who ” rides up” loses more marks than the rider, who may be of lesser ability and who rode the easier route specified by the organisers for that age group. What happens then? The Class winner will be the rider who rode the organiser specified route with least marks lost, as it isn’t clear who is the “better” rider on the specified route. I would then anticipate that the Provisional Results would show any rider who rode out of Class (& is thus ineligible for an award if they rode down) as “rode out of class” or to make clear a particular rider “rode up” or “rode down” Again, this is what my Club does.
This route distinction should make clear to a third party looking at the Results that the “age group” marks lost in this instance are not comparing apples with apples, it’s more as if they are comparing apples with pears.
Sorry if all the above seems long winded, it’s jolly difficult to explain things so that they can’t be misinterpreted succinctly.
ps Pete Dury circulated the Centre Champ tables after the Wells & Dist.TC Miller Cup Round but I have still to post them.
Went out to the Miller Cup today (despite having seen the weather forecast), it was very wet, if you were there you know that already. Thank you to who-ever corrected me from thinking “we’re all daft” to “we’re all dedicated”. Two laps of 15 sections with 4 or 5 (?) of them in the wood. Ours No 11 looked difficult on all 3 routes. So it proved the downhill entry with a tight turn up a gripless bank took plenty of marks, the yellow route was i suspect a little easier after that, the Main route took plenty of marks as well, although Kevin Nicholas was very disappointed he was fived early on in the section after he had fought his way to the ends cards. The Expert & Clubman Expert route took most people for fives, I’d guess there were maybe three to six rides that were recorded as “3’s”. Gareth Talbot & his 4stroke Beta sounded nice & his 2nd lap ride was much improved. Champion Kurt had a couple of dabs on his first ride in the tricky beginning & fived on his 2nd lap. I gather some Sections had to be self observed which is always disappointing for both riders & the organisers, & apologies to you if you were waiting longer than usual to be called in, the rain & the observers cards didn’t get on today so recording your scores was much more difficult than usual. Results will be posted as soon as I have them, but I’m guessing they may not be available until tomorrow
What’s this, a multi Centre & organiser fixture list? Retiring Centre Permit Secretary, Mike Fear has collated & updated his Fixture List – this includes Western & South Western Centre fixtures as well as our own, you can see it here: Mike fears Master Dates List as at 140118 Whoever follows Mike has a hard act to follow, there is a possible aspirant but until the Centre AGM we shan’t know if someone will take the job on, fingers crossed then.
Indulge me please,
They say never look back, & i haven’t often mentioned the “good old days while I’ve been the Steward of your Gazette, but here’s a picture at the 2017 Scott Trial, it’s the section before Surrender. So there’s no riders you say? No, but look at that bike, its the ultimate aspiration for many of us in the 60’s a Greeves Scottish. Once upon a time, I had one of those!
If you’ve never been to the Scott you should go & watch, it was cracking Section you can see a start card & the exit was a 180degree left just after the very top bit of water you can see. If you’ve never entered the Scott & you’re a youngish Centre Expert do it, you might regret it but you’ll never forget it. It’s one of our ultimate challenges & it’d be nice to think that maybe , just maybe Harry Jefferies will …….
Good to hear Mark & Scott Cameron, Tom Culliford, Victoria Payne & Craig Talbot all have confirmed entries for the SSDT – it’s got to be more difficult than last year hasn’t it? I hope the weather god doesn’t make it 6 days of rain like todays to make up for last years 6 days of sunshine.
See you soon: Frank.
Here we are boys & girls, todays Results
Congrats to Kurt Brain, winner on 25m/l R/up was Ben Lovelace on 43 & Tom Culliford 3rd with 46, the Clubman Experts was headed by Ian Wakeford on 24, Ant Millar R/up on 27 & Henry Pym was 3rd on 30. So you can see it was very competitive despite the conditions, oh & I should mention that the AB’s rode the white Expert route in our Section. I won’t make any more comment in the interest of getting these Results posted for you all to see.
We’ve a few things things to bring you up to speed with,
The results of the NSMSC’s Eco Angus Time Trials held last Sunday are here, & Jerry Walters says
‘Evening Frank, Results of yesterday’s North Somerset Club Eco Angus Time Trial, held at Ubley Drove are attached for the website. (Find them here: NSMSC EcoAngus Ttrial results 140118 – Ed) Although weather conditions were favourable, there was enough moisture in the ground to make the course quite challenging for the 58 strong field. Section 3, a descent into a tight turn followed by a slippery, rutted climb was the biggest mark stealer, but most of the other observed sections were also quite tricky. Regards, Jerry’
I see that both Andy Frost & Jason Hamblin were riding the Non Trials Class, Andy took the Premier on 21 marks lost (18+3) with Jason R/up on 31m/l (24+7), although in the tricky Section 3 Jason lost 6 & bested Andy’s 9m/l, as you’ll see neither set fastest time, that went to Tom Smith who lost 80 on observation. The trials class was headed by ‘evergreen’ Paul Manning who lost 33 split 24/9 with a new name to me (?) David Jordan R/up on 24/15. I think we might have an interesting Centre Time Trials Non Trials Machine Championship this year, anyone care to open a book on it? [but remember NSC 3.12.1 !]
The Regs & Entry Form for the BSSA 2nd Alan Brown Time trial on 11th Feb. are here: BSSA 2nd Alan Brown Regs&Entry Form 110218
Finally a reminder that the first Centre Trials Championship Round is on Sunday – the Wells &DTC’s Miller Cup – the Regs have already been posted but …. again Wells & Dist Miller Cup Centre Champ Regs 210118 Regs & 2018 Wells & Dist Miller Cup Centre Champ Trial Entry Form 210118
See you all there I hope: Frank
Here we are,
Jerry Walters has sent across the NSMSC Regs & Entry Form for the first of the Time Trial Championship Rounds. Find them here, NSMSC Terry Bunn Centre Champ T:trial Regs&EntryForm 040218
Don’t forget the first Observed Trials Championship Round is the Wells & District Clubs’ Miller Cup on the 21st Jan
See you at one or the other? Frank
Good evening all,
Theresa has sent over todays Results which are here Wilts Border Kington Cup Trial Results 070118 for you.
We had thought of popping over to observe but it seemed a very strong cold wind so we decided against it. A quick count made 35? of you, and by the look of it it was not too hard but able to take marks from everyone with the Class winners Richard Fry losing 1 on the Main route & Michael Maslin dropping twice as many (2!) on the alternative route. I’d noticed Paul Hearn rode the Kingswood trial a week or two ago, but he found the 4 laps of eight sections tough by the look of it. Pleased to see some other visitors to the Centre including Lee Wiggins, Bret Harbud, Reynard Norris, and a new name to me, Youth B rider Harry Rayner-Lovejoy and also Steve Usher having a rare outing.
Happy New Year to all,
I hope it will be a successful sporting & personal for all of us in the Motor Cycling World.
One of the last sporting Events of last year was the BSSA Phil Sparkes Non Expert Trial held on yesterday week. You can find those Results here: BSSA Phil Sparkes Trial Results 271217 & you can’t hold Events much earlier in 2018 than on Monday, the first of January when the busy BSSA guys run the 1st of the Alan Brown timed trial Series. The Solo Results are here: BSSA 1st Alan Brown T:trial Solo 010118 BSSA & the Sidecar Results are here: BSSA 1st Alan Brown T:trial S:car 010118
It’s good to see that Wessex Plant Hire (Phil Sparkes) & RT Keedwell Group (Stuart Keedwell) are continuing their sponsorship of ACU National Trials Championships. Both of them are well known riders in the Wessex Centre & we thank both Phil and Stuart & their Companies for supporting the Sport
Good morning all,
Here are Sundays NSMSC Richard Sage Electrical T/trial results: NSMSC Richard Sage T Trial results 171217, & Jerry Walters says “Results of yesterday’s rescheduled North Somerset Club Richard Sage Electrical Time Trial are attached for the website.
The Scars Wood, Lulsgate course was in a much drier condition than it had been 7 days earlier…for the first few laps. However it wasn’t long before the onset of rain started to make the course, and some of the observed sections very challenging. Best regards, Jerry”
Editors note, you’ll see a disqualification in the Results, which is unusual! Paul Manning, as Secretary of the Meeting, had to disqualify himself as he’d had machine troubles & changed machines mid event!
The Final 2017 Centre Trials Championship Tables are here: Final Champ Tables 2017 Thanks, as usual, to Pete Dury who makes these happen for us throughout the year